Jun20
Tribulation Study Matthew 24
A guest has asked for an interpretation of the Tribulation Bible verse in Matthew in the Gospel?
I’ve been travelling and there has been some comment discussion as I had already asked before I departed for travel, what others thought the verse means. Finally, I am getting to this. Thank you for your patience, I will annotate my answers in <> as I edit this original post. ‘Abd’ul-Baha said there are 72 two meanings to every verse. This is what I believe the tribulation verses mean. I’ll start with the verses, then explain them:
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Immediately after the tribulation <Tribulation is same as a test or oppression> of those days <those days are these days, that is, not the days of Jesus on his first coming> shall the sun <here the sun refers to Baha’u'llah’s Revelation and covenant> be darkened, and the moon <the moon is in reference to ‘Abd’ul-Baha, as he reflects the sun> shall not give her light <the Hands broke the covenant and thus the mass Baha’i flock was not being nurtured properly with the reality of Baha’ullah’s Covenant nor the truth of ‘Abd’ul-Baha’s Will and Testament, which is the charter for the Kingdom of God on Earth>, and the stars <stars are people who had gained great spiritual heights through teaching and adherence to the Covenant, people like the hands, Ruhiyeh Khannum and the knights of Baha’u'llah> shall fall from heaven <This is the “heaven of oneness”>, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken <After 1957, the heavens of the Baha’i Faith were razed and shooken to thier very foundations, by Ruhiyeh and the Hands>:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven <It is after the great violation of the Covenant that Jesus, the High Priest Melchizedek, appears as Baha’ullah’s “establisher” to explain how the covenant was violated and to break the seven seals on the scroll, which is the Will and Testament of ‘Abd’ul-Baha. This 7th Angel, the Son of man, was Dr. Leland Jensen >: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man <This is similar to Revelation 1:7, the people have heard the trumpet blast yet they mourn because they rejected it all the way to Armageddon - when everyone wakes up!> coming in the clouds <hidden from people by their own expectations> of heaven <The Heaven of Prophecy which Dr. Jensen comes from> with power <His power is from his authority - that is - his explanations are authoritative as he is the return of the author!> and great glory <Like Abraham, Dr. Jensen was a true monotheist, and he was the “true Baha’i”- the word Baha translates to “glory “>.
And he <Dr. Jensen, the return of Jesus> shall send his angels <angels = messengers> with a great sound of a trumpet <the 7th Angels trumpet>, and they <these messengers of the Lamb number about 144 souls who have been educated by Dr. Jensen and his Apostles. Thy are his disciples, the disciplined, the meek.> shall gather together his elect <the 144,000> from the four winds <of Destruction, including Armageddon. The trumpet blast is calling people to spiritual safety in the true understanding of God’s Covenant and to the physical safety of the Mountains, like New Jerusalem in the Rocky Mountains> from one end of heaven to the other.
-Matthew 24: 29-31
Peace
Sorry, I’m a little rusty.
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3:11 am on June 21, 2008
Well…I’m not sure what it means. That’s why I asked you. But I know some say it refers to the coming of Baha’u'llah.
8:32 am on June 23, 2008
Okay, let me tell you the real reason why I wanted to ask you about this as my last question:
I remembered reading in the Kitab-i-Iqan that Baha’u'llah interpreted Matthew 24 as referring to his own coming into this world. However, the passage looks so similar to what we find in the Book of Revelation. So I just wanted to know whether you interpret this passage as Baha’u'llah did, or if you interpret it the same way Dr. Leland Jensen interpreted the Book of Revelation.
8:38 am on June 23, 2008
In any case I think the claims of the Mission of Maitreya are way more convincing than yours…even if I don’t believe in them either. They use many of the same sciptural passages as you do, only they interpret them a tad differently. Maybe you should try checking it out…if you don’t already have.
11:01 am on June 23, 2008
Rasmus, I am still working on this for you. I should have it up soon.
Peace
12:05 pm on June 27, 2008
Mathew 24 is a gret topic and I think it is referring to Jeremiah 24. The gathering of Israel happened back in 1948 and at the end of Jeremiah 24 I think it is speaking of the terorists of the middle east today.
8:00 am on June 30, 2008
Thanks Peace, I really appreciate it. I know you probbaly have to study alot of scriptures in detail to answer me properly. If you could just do it a bit quicker I would appreciate it even more.
9:48 am on July 23, 2008
Rasmus, sorry, I couldn’t get it out before my travels to Wyoming and then to Paonia. But I’ll try and get it soon. No I don’t need to study any scriptures to write a bout the verse. I already know what it means clearly, I just need to find time to write.
Peace
10:40 am on July 27, 2008
Ok, Rasmus and friends, the verse is explained now. And I think there are good ops to explore other important verses that people need to know about also.
Just read the original post again. And feel free to comment.
Peace
10:36 pm on July 27, 2008
Could it be that the CHRIST is the specific male Davidic lineage that serves as the spiritual Covenant as the executive force behind the Divine Kingdom? Readings I have personally been reading seem to describe the theology between the return of Christ & Jesus as entirely two different manifistations of the evolution in the Faith. The Return of Jesus (as Dr. Leland Jensen) is the return of the spiritual qualities of this Manifistation that comes with the authority to herald & usher the teachings of the FATHER (Jesus being the SON) after the Covenant-breaking by the ‘Hands of the Cause’, who wished to do away with the Guardianship altogether. Could it be that JESUS’ return in respect to the CHRIST is merely to ESTABLISH the Faith & the Throne of the Holy Father (Baha’u'lluh)?
10:40 pm on July 27, 2008
With respect to the theological interpretation of Jensen to the Bible in comparison to Baha’u'lluh, I think it important to realize that the Father is established BY & THROUGH the spirit of the Son. In terms of Revelations, it seems, at least in this point of study, that the Son must needs come & establish the Throne with respect to all the Churches (7 distinct interpretations of the Baha’i teachings in the communities). Only the community establishing the THRONE through the SON is worthy in the Father’s eyes.