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Tribulation Study Matthew 24

A guest has asked for an interpretation of the Tribulation Bible verse in Matthew in the Gospel?

I’ve been travelling and there has been some comment discussion as I had already asked before I departed for travel, what others thought the verse means. Finally, I am getting to this. Thank you for your patience, I will annotate my answers in <> as I edit this original post. ‘Abd’ul-Baha said there are 72 two meanings to every verse. This is what I believe the tribulation verses mean. I’ll start with the verses, then explain them:

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” Matthew 24:29-31

Immediately after the tribulation <Tribulation is same as a test or oppression> of those days <those days are these days, that is, not the days of Jesus on his first coming> shall the sun <here the sun refers to Baha’u'llah’s Revelation and covenant> be darkened, and the moon <the moon is in reference to ‘Abd’ul-Baha, as he reflects the sun> shall not give her light <the Hands broke the covenant and thus the mass Baha’i flock was not being nurtured properly with the reality of Baha’ullah’s Covenant nor the truth of ‘Abd’ul-Baha’s Will and Testament, which is the charter for the Kingdom of God on Earth>, and the stars <stars are people who had gained great spiritual heights through teaching and adherence to the Covenant, people like the hands, Ruhiyeh Khannum and the knights of Baha’u'llah> shall fall from heaven <This is the “heaven of oneness”>, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken <After 1957, the heavens of the Baha’i Faith were razed and shook to their very foundations, by Ruhiyeh and the Hands>:

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven <It is after the great violation of the Covenant that Jesus, the High Priest Melchizedek, appears as Baha’ullah’s “establisher” to explain how the covenant was violated and to break the seven seals on the scroll, which is the Will and Testament of ‘Abd’ul-Baha. This 7th Angel, the Son of man, was Dr. Leland Jensen >: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man <This is similar to Revelation 1:7, the people have heard the trumpet blast yet they mourn because they rejected it all the way to Armageddon – when everyone wakes up!> coming in the clouds <hidden from people by their own expectations> of heaven <The Heaven of Prophecy which Dr. Jensen comes from> with power <His power is from his authority – that is – his explanations are authoritative as he is the return of the author!> and great glory <Like Abraham, Dr. Jensen was a true monotheist, and he was the “true Baha’i”- the word Baha translates to “glory “>.

And he <Dr. Jensen, the return of Jesus> shall send his angels <angels = messengers> with a great sound of a trumpet <the 7th Angels trumpet>, and they <these messengers of the Lamb number about 144 souls who have been educated by Dr. Jensen and his Apostles. They are his disciples, the disciplined, the meek.> shall gather together his elect <the 144,000> from the four winds <of Destruction, including Armageddon. The trumpet blast is calling people to spiritual safety in the true understanding of God’s Covenant and to the physical safety of the Mountains, like New Jerusalem in the Rocky Mountains> from one end of heaven to the other.

-Matthew 24: 29-31

Peace

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18 Responses to “Tribulation Study Matthew 24”

  1. 1 Rasmus
    3:11 am on June 21, 2008

    Well…I’m not sure what it means. That’s why I asked you. But I know some say it refers to the coming of Baha’u'llah.

  2. 2 Rasmus
    8:32 am on June 23, 2008

    Okay, let me tell you the real reason why I wanted to ask you about this as my last question:

    I remembered reading in the Kitab-i-Iqan that Baha’u'llah interpreted Matthew 24 as referring to his own coming into this world. However, the passage looks so similar to what we find in the Book of Revelation. So I just wanted to know whether you interpret this passage as Baha’u'llah did, or if you interpret it the same way Dr. Leland Jensen interpreted the Book of Revelation.

  3. 3 Rasmus
    8:38 am on June 23, 2008

    In any case I think the claims of the Mission of Maitreya are way more convincing than yours…even if I don’t believe in them either. They use many of the same sciptural passages as you do, only they interpret them a tad differently. Maybe you should try checking it out…if you don’t already have.

  4. 4 Peace
    11:01 am on June 23, 2008

    Rasmus, I am still working on this for you. I should have it up soon.

    Peace

  5. 5 Cliff
    12:05 pm on June 27, 2008

    Mathew 24 is a gret topic and I think it is referring to Jeremiah 24. The gathering of Israel happened back in 1948 and at the end of Jeremiah 24 I think it is speaking of the terorists of the middle east today.

  6. 6 Rasmus
    8:00 am on June 30, 2008

    Thanks Peace, I really appreciate it. I know you probbaly have to study alot of scriptures in detail to answer me properly. If you could just do it a bit quicker I would appreciate it even more.

  7. 7 Peace
    9:48 am on July 23, 2008

    Rasmus, sorry, I couldn’t get it out before my travels to Wyoming and then to Paonia. But I’ll try and get it soon. No I don’t need to study any scriptures to write a bout the verse. I already know what it means clearly, I just need to find time to write.

    Peace

  8. 8 Peace
    10:40 am on July 27, 2008

    Ok, Rasmus and friends, the verse is explained now. And I think there are good ops to explore other important verses that people need to know about also.

    Just read the original post again. And feel free to comment.

    Peace

  9. 9 Timothy Brown
    10:36 pm on July 27, 2008

    Could it be that the CHRIST is the specific male Davidic lineage that serves as the spiritual Covenant as the executive force behind the Divine Kingdom? Readings I have personally been reading seem to describe the theology between the return of Christ & Jesus as entirely two different manifistations of the evolution in the Faith. The Return of Jesus (as Dr. Leland Jensen) is the return of the spiritual qualities of this Manifistation that comes with the authority to herald & usher the teachings of the FATHER (Jesus being the SON) after the Covenant-breaking by the ‘Hands of the Cause’, who wished to do away with the Guardianship altogether. Could it be that JESUS’ return in respect to the CHRIST is merely to ESTABLISH the Faith & the Throne of the Holy Father (Baha’u'lluh)?

  10. 10 Timothy Brown
    10:40 pm on July 27, 2008

    With respect to the theological interpretation of Jensen to the Bible in comparison to Baha’u'lluh, I think it important to realize that the Father is established BY & THROUGH the spirit of the Son. In terms of Revelations, it seems, at least in this point of study, that the Son must needs come & establish the Throne with respect to all the Churches (7 distinct interpretations of the Baha’i teachings in the communities). Only the community establishing the THRONE through the SON is worthy in the Father’s eyes.

  11. 11 Garry Bonsall
    5:05 am on September 21, 2008

    Dear Tim,
    The Bahai faith has no theology.
    Jensen can say what he likes, as may you or I.
    However, as a Messenger of God, Bahaullah interprets and decodifies the Bible.
    The Glory of the Father (God) is Bahaullah, the Son of God is Jesus.

    The same Christ spirit which revealed itself through Jesus, has now returned through Bahaullah.

  12. 12 Rasmus
    7:12 pm on April 09, 2009

    Okay…this is what Baha’ullah says in the Kitab-i-Iqan:

    “It is clear and manifest that by the words ‘the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven’ is intended the waywardness of the divines, and the annulment of laws firmly established by divine Revelation, all of which, in symbolic language, have been foreshadowed by the Manifestation of God.”

    “It is unquestionable that in every succeeding Revelation the ‘sun’ and ‘moon’ of the teachings, laws, commandments, and prohibitions which have been established in the preceding Dispensation, and which have overshadowed the people of that age, become darkened, that is, are exhausted, and cease to exert their influence.”

    “They still have not awakened to perceive that all the signs foretold have been made manifest, that the promised Sun hath risen above the horizon of divine Revelation, and that the ‘sun’ and ‘moon’ of the teachings, the laws, and learning of a former Dispensation have darkened and set.”

    “And now, with reference to His words: ‘And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.’ These words signify that in those days men will lament the loss of the Sun of the divine beauty, of the Moon of knowledge, and of the Stars of divine wisdom. Thereupon, they will behold the countenance of the promised One, the adored Beauty, descending from heaven and riding upon the clouds.”

    I could go on but I think these passages will do. To sum up Baha’ullah tells us that the prophecy of these passages in the Bible had already been fulfilled at the time when he was writing his book, and that the sun, moon and stars, most certainly does NOT refer to Baha’ullah, Abd’ul Baha and the Hands respectively, but to the previously revealed laws and commandments of God, and that the Son of Man is Baha’ullah himself rather than Leland Jensen.

  13. 13 Rasmus
    2:10 pm on April 16, 2009

    A linguistic note:

    The greek word DOXA wich is traditionally translated as “glory” in the New Testament means glory only in the sense of “honor, esteem” and this is not even the main sense of the word (which is actually “notion, opinion”). The arabic word BAHA means glory only in the sense of “splendor”, and again only in the sense of “gorgeous appearance”. Logically enough, because BAHA was not originally a noun but an adjectival verb that means “to be beautiful”.

  14. 14 Rasmus
    2:39 pm on April 16, 2009

    Please allow me to ask another sincere question in this connection:

    If it is in fact, as you say, Bahaullah who is standing at the right hand of God together with Jesus in Stephens vision in Acts 7:55, then why, when Stephen relates this to the people around him does he merely say, “Look! I see the heavens opened and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God!”, and fail to mention the glory of God?

  15. 15 Mike
    2:14 pm on May 18, 2009

    it is of symbolism alsom a matter of when then the person dies what religion they where at death as I understand it who will be at Gods right hand side

  16. 16 Rasmus
    7:17 am on May 30, 2009

    Okay…so you’re saying (please correct me if I’m wrong) that because Stephen was a Christian, Jesus would have been more important to him than Baha’u'llah. Very well Mike. But how do you then explain the fact that Baha’u'llah himself identified with the Son of Man rather than the DOXA of God?

  17. 17 Allan Svensson
    4:37 am on October 24, 2009

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    The Bridegroom comes, Come out to meet him. Matt. 25:6.
    From where shall we go out? We shall go out of the great
    Babylon, the great whore. Rev. Chapter 17 and 18. This
    command of the Lord in Rev. 18:4 is now highly topical.

    Never before we have been so nearly Jesus’ coming as we
    are now, but how are God’s people prepared? How is the
    unity in the faith? Sorry, very bad! God’s people are more
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    the Bible teaches about the Assembly of God, they have
    followed Satan’s false assembly doctrine. They believe
    that the Assembly of God is constituted of church systems
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    Most Christians have not yet begun to prepare for Jesus’
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    The Assembly of God is no Pentecostal church. Please,
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    The Bridegroom comes, Come out to meet him
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    Evil spirits in the churches
    http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/SPIRITS.HTM

    The great Apostasy
    http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/MESSAGE.HTM#Apostasy

    What does hinder the Antichrist to appear?
    What is the Restrainer?
    http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/MESSAGE.HTM#Antichrist

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  18. 18 separate
    6:56 pm on October 21, 2010

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